There are no Sacrifices for the Omnipotent: The Jesus Contradiction

 There are no Sacrifices for the Omnipotent: The Jesus Contradiction

By David G. McAfee 

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                A common theme throughout the New Testament scriptures and modern teachings of Christianity is that of “personal sacrifice”. Whether a parable in the bible is teaching the disciples and followers of Jesus how to sacrifice themselves for the Lord, or to live without worldly riches in order to be more like Jesus, self-sacrifice is a common tenet of all sects of Christianity- and many other religions for that matter. The act that comes to mind more than any other, in this sense, is Jesus’ crucifixion- the ultimate act of self-sacrifice that forgave mankind’s sins and makes future flesh donations  to God unnecessary. 

                My question involves the omnipotence and omniscience of God. If we presuppose that Jesus and God are one- as many (but not all) Christians do- then we can also infer that Jesus Christ was omnipotent, omniscient, and omni-benevolent, and the idea of sacrifice is lost. The martyrdom was premeditated on the part of the Creator, and Jesus was resurrected afterward- showing that the act of “death” was not an inconvenience, therefore lacks the sacrificial element that is often praised throughout modern Christianity.

                Even for the Christians who believe that Jesus and God are separate entities, the Passion of Christ has proven to be problematic. Most sects of modern Christianity preach that God sent his only begotten son to earth in order to be crucified for man’s sins. Scriptural evidence of this includes a passage from John 10:17, 18: “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life…No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down myself…This commandment have I received of my Father.”[1] Because of Jesus’ supposed predestination, God would have had to choose the people who would kill his son, choose the method by which he would be killed (crucifixion), and the time at which the event would occur. Those guilty of killing Jesus would therefore be simply carrying out God’s wishes without the free will to have chosen a path for themselves. The problem with this lies in the fate of the Romans who physically killed Jesus Christ. Simply ask yourself, did these betrayers of Christ go to heaven—or do they now reside in hell? If one is to say that the men guilty of this trespass against the Lord went to heaven, Christianity’s primary tenet would be contradicted: one must first accept Jesus before entrance into heaven. These men clearly did not accept Jesus as a savior. If one is to decide that the men went to hell, it causes another problem with the Christian idea of free will. Because God sent his son to be crucified, he had to have ensured that someone (the Romans) would do it, removing the free will from these men; punishing them to eternal damnation for something that God in fact caused.


[1]John 10:17, 18: “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have the power to lay it down, and I have the power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.”

Jesus on the Cross

Jesus on the Cross

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17 responses to “There are no Sacrifices for the Omnipotent: The Jesus Contradiction

  1. The Jesus and God are one theme has interested me for some time. In John 8:58, Jesus says, “Before Abraham, I Am.” Taken literally, Jesus and Yahweh are the one God, meaning Jesus is as responsible for the Old Testament as Yahweh. The Old Testament God is a vicious, arbitrary, jealous, angry god, so the unchanging god of Christianity is purported to have made a 180 degree turn in personality (although Jesus and the NT have their share of violence). What gives?

  2. You certainly make a lot of sense here but the crucifixion myth was developed mainly as a guilt trip, as are so many of the sick stories in the bible.

    Recent research shows clearly that the bible is made up of oral literature based on hundreds of years of ancient myths and authoritarian stories. These stories are meant to create awsome fear and obedience in the listener and later in the docile reader.

    I studied the history of Religion (supernaturalism) for many years and can summarize it very briefly: the Greeks invented many human-like gods and the Egyptians invented the crazy idea of an afterlife. The Jews invented a vengeful, controlling god and the Christians invented the wonderful idea of eternal, everlasting, horrible punishment. (The single worst idea ever concieved).

    How they convinced people to believe all this stuff is a sure sign of how gullible and nieve we are. The historical Jesus probably never existed, but the myth was adopted from the Egyptian sun god along with the substitution of many pagan rituals and celebrations. Google The Jesus Myth for more on this incredible story.

    Thanks for your interesting posts.

    Bill R
    Glassboro, NJ

  3. sorry for misspellings.

    You certainly make a lot of sense here but the crucifixion myth was developed mainly as a guilt trip, as are so many of the sick stories in the bible.

    Recent research shows clearly that the bible is made up of oral literature based on hundreds of years of ancient myths and authoritarian stories. These stories are meant to create awesome fear and obedience in the listener and later in the docile reader.

    I studied the history of Religion (supernaturalism) for many years and can summarize it very briefly: the Greeks invented many human-like gods and the Egyptians invented the crazy idea of an afterlife. The Jews invented a vengeful, controlling god and the Christians invented the wonderful idea of eternal, everlasting, horrible punishment. (The single worst idea ever conceived).

    How they convinced people to believe all this stuff is a sure sign of how gullible and naive we are. The historical Jesus probably never existed, but the myth was adopted from the Egyptian sun god along with the substitution of many pagan rituals and celebrations. Google The Jesus Myth for more on this incredible story.

    Thanks for your interesting posts.

    Bill R
    Glassboro, NJ

  4. The most cruel part of christianity is the so called Divine Right that gave the church authority of all its subjects and pass it along to the royalty to enslave people of other faiths and non believers. It also enabled them to teach that women were worthless and evil. Of course this in reference to the fable of the garden of eden. It made white male christians think they have dominion over all others and still goes on today. Ask american indians what they think of Columbus and the wrath they perpetrated on native americans.

  5. Also, what about those people who heard about Jesus or even saw Jesus, but then died shortly thereafter, having not accepted Jesus as their savior. They had virtually no chance to accept Jesus, but they were sent to hell any way, because they did have a small chance, but they blew it, before Paul established the Christian dogma.

  6. Excellent article. On the one hand, there is no point even discussing the bible, because it is so clearly a work of confused and unenlightened men from a distant age, when humans were only just becoming aware of themselves and how they fit into civilization and the world around them – but on the other hand, people still assume that it was written by an invisible master of the universe – the only book that master has ever written and ever will write – so debating the logic of the book on that basis is a fantastic device! Well done! Logic and clear thinking is the only way to slowly but surely break down the illusions, misconceptions and twisted thinking that created the bible and causes it to still be given any air time whatsoever.

    Congratulations on your work.

    Cheers

  7. Stephanie Sproat

    I was brought up to believe that the Bible is true. As a child, my parents, aunts, uncles, Grandparents, all their close friends were Christadelphians- a Bible literalist sect- not unlike the Jehovah’s Witnesses. In recent years, to my dismay, my brother joined too.
    Me?- I never could believe it.
    One of many things that made no sense to me was the idea of dying to save others.
    I can see that someone can risk their life in an attempt to save others, but dying? What use is that?
    As for ressurection, Christians seem to think that this party trick has evidence for it’s truth just because it is written in a book which the writers say is true.
    That’s religion for you. The writers of the book say it’s true- so it must be true.
    It makes me wonder how so very many people go along with that idea.
    Good article David, and some interesting comments following. Thanks.

  8. I often wonder what the percentage of folks in the pews have ever read the bible

  9. It is difficult to remove the vomit that Xtianity has been spewing for the past almost two millenium yet even it will lose it’s smell someday. But for one to claim atheism is to depart from logic. Had you been raised to consider Judaism, Torah observant Judaism, you may think differently today. The Torah is not contradictory to those that know how to read the Hebrew and have a scientific mindset. I am a Chemist, and a convert to orthodox Judaism. It is logically compelling that a Creator, (and everything is created), would give His creation an instruction manual. Torah means “instruction” in English. So if you don’t have a knee jerk reaction to Judaism, which is not a religion, but a response to logic, then I suggest for the sake of humanity that you visit http://www.netzarim.co.il to find out the facts. Religion may be the opiate of the masses, but real opium is better than religion.

    • “Had you been raised to consider Judaism, Torah observant Judaism, you may think differently today.” I’d like to start off by letting you know that I have studied Judaism and the Torah (instruction/teaching/law) and I honestly have difficultly understanding how a chemist can observe science and an ancient text that is so contradictory to it.

      You also insist that Judaism is “not a religion, but a response to logic”- this is a ridiculous statement. Judaism is an enormous religion with 14 million-18 million followers, and it is the father of Abrahamic religions including Christianity and Islam, which are some of the most violent and devestating belief systems known to man.

      If you’d like, I can spend some time analyzing various parts of the Hebrew Scriptures and Torah showing you the jealous, vengeful, angry, God of the “Old Testament” that doesn’t deserve your admiration or worship.

      Thank you for taking the time to comment, but please remember that Judaism has caused (directly and indirectly) an enormous amount of warfare over “Holy” land, heresy, and religious differences; similarly to the other “mainstream” religions.

      David G. McAfee

  10. Elijah Heartsong

    A scandal from the beginning! brilliant! we have premeditated murder and the belief to feel sorry for the victim all in one. maybe that’s why they really killed Jesus. he had grandiose delusions, and they felt it was morally wrong for him to act “above” everyone else. They nailed him on the lie.

  11. The most evil, corrupt institution in history is the Catholic church. They were shaking hands with the likes of Hitler and Mussolini and others. I think the pope was jumping with joy that the Jewsish people would removed as competition for his unholy sea. I used to be a Catholic and now I cannot believe what I understood as unchaallenged truth. Eliyaha I attend an atheist meeting and there is a Jewish woman there as she informed me the same thing about the Torah. I must admit though that some of the instruction seems to me, and I admit my ignorance, are far out.

  12. EarleyDaysYet

    OK, just to clarify a few things:
    (1) the principle of sacrifice was not based around the 3 days of Easter – it was that God, a perfect and sinless entity, came to earth in human imperfection and endured the human condition. That Christ, who was born and grew up on Earth, suffered the scrapes, bruises, wounds, temptations, doubts & torment of mankind. That he had to make a conscious choice to go through with the flogging, crucifixion – an especially hideous & painful way to die. The sacrifice was not his impermanent death, it was to choose to follow God’s path & go through with it. He was Divine – he didn’t have to do any of that. By living & dying as a man, and accepting the sins of the world as his own, he went to hell and paid the price for those sins so that mankind would not have to. That’s the sacrifice.
    (2) re the OT/NT thing: the OT was all laws, priests, hierarchy, rituals. Jesus is referred to as the Lamb because the sacrifice of a perfect, unblemished lamb at the Temple was prescribed in order to cleanse sins. In the NT, Jesus says that he has come to replace the Law, to make all men priests & to take on sins (see 1).

    The Catholic church decided that was too easy & not only reinstated an elite priesthood, but actively warped & twisted the message to make themselves the power of the time. They made money hand over fistorgor centuries, selling forgiveness & encouraging people not to think for themselves.

    Anyway, don’t know if that cleared anything up 🙂

    • Early- Let me enlighten you in regards to a few points that you brought up. For starters, I’d like to link you to Merriam-Webster’s website that describes “humankind” as

      “Main Entry: hu·man·kind
      Pronunciation: \ˈhyü-mən-ˌkīnd, ˈyü-\
      Function: noun singular but singular or plural in construction
      Date: 1594
      : the human race”

      Secondly, I’d like to address the “torment” that you insist Jesus was put through. Even if you believe every word of the bible, Jesus’ situation was not uniquely painful; criminals were flogged and crucified FREQUENTLY during this era.

      In your next point, you insist that Jesus “went to hell” which, according to Revelations, didn’t even exist until after the Great White Throne Judgement (Revelation 20: 11-15). The “Hades” which Jesus descended into is a temporary place for souls after death- but before judgment- known as sheol in Hebrew.

      Next, you insist that “Jesus says that he has come to replace the Law” when, in fact, the Hebrew scriptures (what Christians refer to as the “Old Testament”) are no less important and influential to modern Christianity than the New Testament containing the acts of Jesus Christ, as his own words indicate in Matthew 5:17: “Think not that I come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.”

      Thank you for your input, but I’d consider doing some more research on the subject of the ancient texts and Christian history as a whole. Thank you,

      David G. McAfee

  13. EarleyDaysYet

    Ack.
    * hand over fist for centuries
    * “man” & “mankind” are used here in their traditional sense, meaning “humans”. “Humankind” is not a word.

  14. Reply to what Bill. J wrote:

    “Historical J…..”!?!

    The persons using that contra-historical oxymoron (demonstrated by the eminent late Oxford historian, James Parkes, The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue) exposes dependancy upon 4th-century, gentile, Hellenist sources.

    While scholars debate the provenance of the original accounts upon which the earliest extant (4th century, even fragments are post-135 C.E.), Roman gentile, Hellenist-redacted versions were based, there is not one fragment, not even one letter of the NT that derives DIRECTLY from the 1st-century Pharisee Jews who followed the Pharisee Ribi Yehoshua.
    Historians like Parkes, et al., have demonstrated incontestably that 4th-century Roman Christianity was the 180° polar antithesis of 1st-century Judaism of ALL Pharisee Ribis. The earliest (post-135 C.E.) true Christians were viciously antinomian (ANTI-Torah), claiming to supersede and displace Torah, Judaism and (“spiritual) Israel and Jews. In soberest terms, ORIGINAL Christianity was anti-Torah from the start while DSS (viz., 4Q MMT) and ALL other Judaic documentation PROVE that ALL 1st-century Pharisees were PRO-Torah.

    There is a mountain of historical Judaic information Christians have refused to deal with, at: http://www.netzarim.co.il (see, especially, their History Museum pages beginning with “30-99 C.E.”).
    Original Christianity = ANTI-Torah. Ribi Yehoshua and his Netzarim, like all other Pharisees, were PRO-Torah. Intractable contradiction.

    Building a Roman image from Hellenist hearsay accounts, decades after the death of the 1st-century Pharisee Ribi, and after a forcible ouster, by Hellenist Roman gentiles, of his original Jewish followers (135 C.E., documented by Eusebius), based on writings of a Hellenist Jew excised as an apostate by the original Jewish followers (documented by Eusebius) is circular reasoning through gentile-Roman Hellenist lenses.

    What the historical Pharisee Ribi taught is found not in the hearsay accounts of post-135 C.E. Hellenist Romans but, rather, in the Judaic descriptions of Pharisees and Pharisee Ribis of the period… in Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT (see Prof. Elisha Qimron), inter alia.

    To all Christians: The question is, now that you’ve been informed, will you follow the authentic historical Pharisee Ribi? Or continue following the post-135 C.E. Roman-redacted antithesis—an idol?

  15. You raise some truly valid questions; I don’t have perfect
    answers. May I suggest, however, that we cannot be sure that free
    will was removed from the equation? There are many thoughts within
    Christianity as to the degree of divine predestination of events
    and details in the lives of human beings. Some Christians think
    that every twitch and burp is determined by God; some Christians
    think that God does not play an overly active role in humanity’s
    proceedings. To say that those who carried out the death sentence
    proscribed for an enemy of the state–if that is an accurate way to
    describe how the Roman guards perceived Jesus–were acting without
    the option of free will would be a simplification the story. But,
    as a Christian, I would agree with you. If free will was removed
    from the equation, then Jesus’ blood could not be on the hands of
    those who killed him. I also happen to believe that for those
    guards, it was probably just another horrible day on the job. Jesus
    was probably just another prisoner sentenced to die. I doubt there
    was any “extra” struggle or questioning of their actions than any
    other time they carried out an such a hard order. Looking back, we
    view it as this world-changing event. In reality, it was probably
    just another horrible afternoon of capital punishment, and I bet
    they had issues or struggles with the taking of anyone’s life. I
    know that doesn’t invalidate your argument, but I wanted you to
    know that your thoughts are thoughts shared by those within
    Christianity, and we are trying to understand and find
    answers.

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